approved plan vs working plan

[rkrishna]

I am in the process of getting a building plan approved with BBMP. I wanted the working plan to be as close to the approved plan as possible in my case. The BBMP approved architect has drawn a plan that is overall close to my plan but still has differences like the following. He says that we can construct according to working plan.
1. Overall built up area and FAR/coverage is matching between both the plans and the overall room layout is more or less similar
2. Approved plan has small deviations to take care of setbacks (I understand that this difference is expected)
3. One internal stair is missing in the approved plan
4. Approved plan has only one kitchen (BBMP guy says it will take more time and money to get 2 kitchen plan approved and no one will check the interiors)
5. Balcoy/walkin wardrobes etc are not show in approved plan.
6 The position of toilets is a bit different in some places.
7. Door positions are not matching between plans in several places


I have been asking the BBMP architect to follow my architect's drawing- but he seems reluctant to change this further. Anyone had any experience dealing with this situation? Or rather does it matter as I am told that we have to keep inspecting officers in good spirits irrespective of deviation or no deviation?

[spiderman]

Could anyone please share the contact details of BBMP approved architects, who are flexible?

[girishd]

Spiderman,

I lost almost 3 months with 2 wrong agent/architects and finally found a 3rd one who has done way better job than the first two.

You can PM me if you need details of my agent who does everything - plan modification, getting docs like CE/Khata, filing online, getting inspection/plan approval done.. Of course he will charge for this kind of service.

Just want to add that I am no way connected to him and happy working in IT field

[spiderman]

Thanks girish, I have PMed you, please share the contact detail.
Girish could you please also comment on following thread if you have any knowledge about the same?

http://www.mybdasites.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=4619

[vsathishmybda]

Hi,

As per my knowledge, the BBMP architect will draw the plan in such a way that you will violate it.
For me, my site is North facing and he has drawn in the approved plan the entrance in SW corner.
Ridiculous, is'nt it.

Me and my friend are joint owners of the property and we insisted for two kitchens in the plan and we got it like it.
For more than 1 kitchen, the approval needs to be got from DTCP AE as well. So more expenditure is also involved here.

As far as i know 90% of the buildings in Bangalore does not have completion certificate.
Even if you do everything as per approved plan still the expenditure to them needs to be provided and still not guaranteed to get completion certificate.
You need to be a highly influential person to get a one as far as i understand.

Really, fed up of this corrupt world.

[spiderman]

Thanks for responding vsathishmybda.

Me and my friend are joint owners of the property and we insisted for two kitchens in the plan and we got it like it.
For more than 1 kitchen, the approval needs to be got from DTCP AE as well. So more expenditure is also involved here.

you and your friend are joint owner? is it lawfully permissible? I am also trying the exact scenario. planning to construct with paternal cousin.
we plan to construct 3 floors, G.Florr for rent + parking, F floor for one of us and second floor for one of us. So we would actually need three kitchens, one on each floor.

In your case did you have two kitchens on one floor?

[spiderman]

As far as i know 90% of the buildings in Bangalore does not have completion certificate.
Even if you do everything as per approved plan still the expenditure to them needs to be provided and still not guaranteed to get completion certificate.
You need to be a highly influential person to get a one as far as i understand. Really, fed up of this corrupt world.

Have you tried to get Completion certificate for your house? you can try through RTI route if you have not deviated from approved construction plan.
Those who have deviated from approved plan can not even try the RTI route .

[vsathishmybda]

Hi Spiderman,

You and your friend are joint owner?
Yes. Me and my friend are joint owners of the land.

Is it lawfully permissible?
Why not? As far as i know anyone and anybody can be joint owners of the land.
i read somewhere that there can be a maximum of 6 joint owners for a land.

In your case did you have two kitchens on one floor?
No. Only 1 kitchen approval per floor since our site is small(30 x 40 approx.)
I doubt if you can get more than 1 kitchen approval in a single floor unless and until your site dimension is big enough(say 50 x 80). You can enquire on this.

If your site dimension is less than 60 x 40, maximum number of kitchen approval you get is only 2. This is what my engineer had said. You can enquire on this.

If you are going for more than 1 kitchen approval, then BBMP may ask/force you(via their architects to draw/plan in such a way) to go for Stilt + GF + FF + SF + .. depending on you site dimension and F.A.R. Here Stilt will be allowed only for parking.

Assume your site is 30 x 40, then, in this case as per my understanding plan approval may look like the following :
1. Plan A : Stilt + GF + FF where Stilt - only for parking, GF - 2BHK with 1 kitchen approval, FF - 2BHK with 1 kitchen approval, SF - a small head room / staircase room
2. Plan B : Stilt + GF + FF + SF where Stilt - only for parking, GF - 2BHK with 1 kitchen approval, FF - a duplex to SF with 1 kitchen approval in FF.