Hi
I heard having pillar/beam construction instead of wall , the advantage that we can construct the rooms wall away from the ground wall. i.e it need not to be on the wall below the ground floor as usually being done for wall construction.
This mean if you have bed room of 12*10 ,then you should be able to construct the room above in the same dimension in the case of wall construction ,but in case of beam you could move it with 15*15 . Is this true?
Regards
Sam
Advantages Beams
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Hi Sam_m400,
Yes, with pillar beam type of construction you will be able to changes the placing of the walls.
Better pratice will to have 8inch wall always above and below the beam and 4inch wall can be constructed where ever you desire.
During course, we also need to take structural design into consideration. (Where amount of steel which in needs to pushed into concrete to slab based on the overall design).
Dreamhome
Yes, with pillar beam type of construction you will be able to changes the placing of the walls.
Better pratice will to have 8inch wall always above and below the beam and 4inch wall can be constructed where ever you desire.
During course, we also need to take structural design into consideration. (Where amount of steel which in needs to pushed into concrete to slab based on the overall design).
Dreamhome
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Yes, you get more flexibility with Column and beam structure. Ensure current planned structure is strong enough take foreseen future changes like adding one more floor
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But should i do anything during barbending time itself ? . I have planned for G+3 and making the structure in that way, but i need to move should i increase the stretch of beam or should i put more concrete proportion . Currently the pillars are aligned along the wall on ground wall means 12*10 bedroom, and beam is just above this it with 1 ft" thickness but if i need to move i can move i can maximum move the wall for first floor 13 feel (12+1) so that top wall will be on the beam. Can i move beyond this 1 feet beam thickness ,so that i can construct a wall for 15 feet ?
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Confirming on your scenario - column, beam and walls are aligned for GND Flr bed room, currently the same plan is applicable to 1st Flr bedroom, but you are looking to increase the size of 1st flr bed room by pushing wall out on one or two sides?
Based on my researching and self learning on civil engg. in last six months - Yes you can do this, beam doesn't need wall's support, they sit on the column, however few thing you need to take care of like looks might get compromised (exposed beam doesn't look good), if you follow vastu, bed shd not be located under beam, eletrical path needs to be rerouted etc.,
In case you are still at planning phase - I would suggest to take help from Architect or Structural engg to see if the beams and columns can be placed in such a way to take care of your need.
If gnd flr is already constructed - you can still seek their help to see what can be done. Probably they can suggest you concealed beam (Beam which is more or less same thinkness as your roof RCC, but is equivalent in strength as regular beam due to more reinforcement of steel and higher concentration of cement)
One important thing to keep in mind regarding civil construction is, changes during constrcution phase is very expensive business.
So take time and dont be under pressure during planning phase. If you are hands-on person (i think you are
), try out all possible floor plans using a floor planning software yourself and see which one meets best for you and your family requirement today and for next 15 to 25 years. Once you think you have found your design, running it through St. engg. for column and beam placing. Once you have this plan ready, take few more days to see it has covered evrything you wanted and the way you want it, then freez the plan. If you dont have time/not comfortable/don't like doing floor planning yourself, mention your requiremnet to architect and let him/her come up with design which takes care of your need.
What i mentioned in my earlier comment was that, say currently you plan to build only 2 flrs but might have plan in future to extened to 3rd flr, then ensure structural plan is done in a way to take on the extra load
Based on my researching and self learning on civil engg. in last six months - Yes you can do this, beam doesn't need wall's support, they sit on the column, however few thing you need to take care of like looks might get compromised (exposed beam doesn't look good), if you follow vastu, bed shd not be located under beam, eletrical path needs to be rerouted etc.,
In case you are still at planning phase - I would suggest to take help from Architect or Structural engg to see if the beams and columns can be placed in such a way to take care of your need.
If gnd flr is already constructed - you can still seek their help to see what can be done. Probably they can suggest you concealed beam (Beam which is more or less same thinkness as your roof RCC, but is equivalent in strength as regular beam due to more reinforcement of steel and higher concentration of cement)
One important thing to keep in mind regarding civil construction is, changes during constrcution phase is very expensive business.
So take time and dont be under pressure during planning phase. If you are hands-on person (i think you are
), try out all possible floor plans using a floor planning software yourself and see which one meets best for you and your family requirement today and for next 15 to 25 years. Once you think you have found your design, running it through St. engg. for column and beam placing. Once you have this plan ready, take few more days to see it has covered evrything you wanted and the way you want it, then freez the plan. If you dont have time/not comfortable/don't like doing floor planning yourself, mention your requiremnet to architect and let him/her come up with design which takes care of your need. What i mentioned in my earlier comment was that, say currently you plan to build only 2 flrs but might have plan in future to extened to 3rd flr, then ensure structural plan is done in a way to take on the extra load
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Thanks. Means if i need the bedroom of 15*15 size over the first floor over bed room size 12*10 where in ground floor wall beam/pillar is aligned then it is possible from your comment. I don;t need to move the pillar/beam now to 15*15 in the ground floor . Is this right?
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please dont suggest with out experts comment
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please get certifed by a proffession to such technical issue. it wont misguide other visitor. as it is public form it is our humble request. you can select such volunteers to your site.it will help the socity
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yes, also think about how will your 2nd floor and 3rd flr room will look like (if not planned currently then for future), will it match gnd flr or 1st flr, then you will be able to plan the column and beam location better
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before construction the future expansion can be accoumated will be cost effective