Dealing with BBMP notice on setback violations
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arjun.surendra04
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Dealing with BBMP notice on setback violations
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As of now, there is no option to legalise the deviations. Posible only when "Akrama-Sakrama" scheme implemented.
As per rules, anything out of the approved plan is violation. BBMP can serve the notice asking you to set it right,
else they will demolish and slap you the fine + the expenditure towards demolition activity.
Interestingly, When you can get a plan approval using RTI without paying Bribe, Why did you intentionally violated rules during construction ??
. Still you have long way to interact with various bodies till you occupy the house. BBMP, BESCOM, BWSSB,
Local Councillors all works in the same frequency and are interlinked. So just taking plan approval without Bribe will not end your
problem, unless you are clean and transparent in utilising RTI in rest of the phases also.
As per rules, anything out of the approved plan is violation. BBMP can serve the notice asking you to set it right,
else they will demolish and slap you the fine + the expenditure towards demolition activity.
Interestingly, When you can get a plan approval using RTI without paying Bribe, Why did you intentionally violated rules during construction ??
. Still you have long way to interact with various bodies till you occupy the house. BBMP, BESCOM, BWSSB, Local Councillors all works in the same frequency and are interlinked. So just taking plan approval without Bribe will not end your
problem, unless you are clean and transparent in utilising RTI in rest of the phases also.
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arjun.surendra04
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Dear Friend,
In Bangalore, more than 80% of the constructions are violated. But as per the BBMP records all the plan permissions are given only for the plans which are as per Bye- law compliant. In order to fight and prove the deviations, you may have to spend several decades going to the civil court. Even If you apply for RTI, you need to spend several lakhs or crores towards the documentation copy charges itself for bangalore zone alone to receive the records. But in all these cases, both the owners and the officials have made mutual understanding and benefited.
In india, rules & regulations can be used as per the situation & their way by the Govt Officials. You may say, its 15% violation. But BBMP can say 3 ft instead of 4.7 ft as violation of 36.2%. In your opinion you might have done best thing. Unfortunately BBMP doesn't have any separate guidelines for skewed sites.
When your intention of not to bribe anyone, is very ethical and valuable - Follow the same and simply correct the deviations and be peaceful.
In Bangalore, more than 80% of the constructions are violated. But as per the BBMP records all the plan permissions are given only for the plans which are as per Bye- law compliant. In order to fight and prove the deviations, you may have to spend several decades going to the civil court. Even If you apply for RTI, you need to spend several lakhs or crores towards the documentation copy charges itself for bangalore zone alone to receive the records. But in all these cases, both the owners and the officials have made mutual understanding and benefited.
In india, rules & regulations can be used as per the situation & their way by the Govt Officials. You may say, its 15% violation. But BBMP can say 3 ft instead of 4.7 ft as violation of 36.2%. In your opinion you might have done best thing. Unfortunately BBMP doesn't have any separate guidelines for skewed sites.
When your intention of not to bribe anyone, is very ethical and valuable - Follow the same and simply correct the deviations and be peaceful.
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blrsiteseeker
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Re: Dealing with BBMP notice on setback violations
MSN is right. Try not to get in trouble from any angle. You did good by obtaining the approvals without bribe, why then did you default on something else.
The argument that there are many other houses that are in violation - is not a valid one. If one honest official comes on board and really does take every house to action, then you will fall under that. Besides the bye-laws are there for a reason, to keep some discipline in construction. I still don't understand why we don't try to understand follow what they are meant for.
Look at some cities in Europe, like Santorini in Greece, they have laws that every house has to be white, no matter what each individual wants. And that city is a major tourist attraction because of that.
In India, and more so in Bengaluru, we have both the citizens and the officials to blame for the mess that the city is in. In many places, the house sits right on the road (absolutely no set back whatsoever), what good is that for the residents - all the noise, dust everything right into the house and absolutely no safety - you step into traffic as you step out of your house.
Many places, parts of the house have to be dismantled for road expansion. And it seems obvious if they had left the required set backs, they probably could have saved themselves some trouble at least.
Sorry if I have offended you or anyone else, but all these are my opinions and you can argue against them all. Only if each citizen stays away from breaking the rules, will we have the strength to fight the corruption that our leaders are perpetrating. Without ourselves being correct first, how can we point our fingers at them!
The argument that there are many other houses that are in violation - is not a valid one. If one honest official comes on board and really does take every house to action, then you will fall under that. Besides the bye-laws are there for a reason, to keep some discipline in construction. I still don't understand why we don't try to understand follow what they are meant for.
Look at some cities in Europe, like Santorini in Greece, they have laws that every house has to be white, no matter what each individual wants. And that city is a major tourist attraction because of that.
In India, and more so in Bengaluru, we have both the citizens and the officials to blame for the mess that the city is in. In many places, the house sits right on the road (absolutely no set back whatsoever), what good is that for the residents - all the noise, dust everything right into the house and absolutely no safety - you step into traffic as you step out of your house.
Many places, parts of the house have to be dismantled for road expansion. And it seems obvious if they had left the required set backs, they probably could have saved themselves some trouble at least.
Sorry if I have offended you or anyone else, but all these are my opinions and you can argue against them all. Only if each citizen stays away from breaking the rules, will we have the strength to fight the corruption that our leaders are perpetrating. Without ourselves being correct first, how can we point our fingers at them!
Re: Dealing with BBMP notice on setback violations
arjun.surendra,
While the laws of the land have empowered the citizens to seek information and get some work done by the Gov't departments, the same laws have also empowered the officials to do everything that needs to be done to enforce the rules of the land. They are empowered to get the violations demolished if they choose to do so. From time to time, we do read in the newspapers, BDA/BBMP demolishing unauthorized constructions.
I do not understand your line of reasoning about filing a RTI application seeking details of percentage of violations in your zone. How does that information justify your violations? You can seek a lawyer's help and file a reply and go to court and delay the possible action from BDA/BBMP and hope/pray that akrama/sakrama comes into force and help you out in future.
If I were you, I would undo the violations and be at peace.
While the laws of the land have empowered the citizens to seek information and get some work done by the Gov't departments, the same laws have also empowered the officials to do everything that needs to be done to enforce the rules of the land. They are empowered to get the violations demolished if they choose to do so. From time to time, we do read in the newspapers, BDA/BBMP demolishing unauthorized constructions.
I do not understand your line of reasoning about filing a RTI application seeking details of percentage of violations in your zone. How does that information justify your violations? You can seek a lawyer's help and file a reply and go to court and delay the possible action from BDA/BBMP and hope/pray that akrama/sakrama comes into force and help you out in future.
If I were you, I would undo the violations and be at peace.