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need advice on RCC columns/beams

Posted: May 8th, 2011, 11:08 am
by raohari
Hi, I'm in the process of constructing a new gaming lounge/restaurant in Chennai. I need some advice on structural strength of the elevation. I'm attaching a sample drawing from the architect. The front face of the gaming section is designed to have an angular glass facade with masonry up to the top. The roof is not a slab... it's metal sheeting attached to metal beams that sit on metal pillars. The intent is to raise a facade wall to mask this from the outside and of course, we'll have false ceilings inside. Walls are regular masonry.

My first question:
What do I need to pull of this look, where the angular glass has a continuous span of about 17 ft?

My current plan:
First, I plan to have 2 RCC pillars at the ends... about 19-20ft apart. Plan to have it go up to 8ft high and 2ft deep. So total 10ft.
Then, there's an angular RCC beam that will extend from 8ft on one end to 0ft on the other.
Then, there's a flat RCC beam across the 2 pillars at 8ft in ht.

My 2nd question:
Will this work?
If so, what kind of MS rod reinforcing will I need for the pillars and the beams? Specifically, how many and what width?

My 3rd question:
Any idea on innovative shuttering solutions for the glass face? Any contacts in Chennai?

Thanks in advance!
Regards,
Hari
elevation.JPG

Re: need advice on RCC columns/beams

Posted: May 13th, 2011, 12:38 am
by ardesarchitects
Hi Hari,
I really didn't under stand the image.can you post the elevation in some other angle so that i can suggest you some thing.

Regards
Ar.praveen.n
Ardes Archtiects and Interior Designers
ardesarchitects@gmail.com

Re: need advice on RCC columns/beams

Posted: May 22nd, 2011, 10:51 am
by raohari
Hi praveen,
Thanks for replying. sorry I didn't reply... i thought i'd get an email if someone posted to my query. Gotta check my configuration. :)

For some reason, the right side of this pic is cut off... I'll post another one. Regardless, I ended up going with an MS beam structure instead of concrete... mainly for time and ease of building. We will end up modifying the elev. somewhat... I'll post the old elev. drawings in a bit.

Re: need advice on RCC columns/beams

Posted: May 22nd, 2011, 10:52 am
by raohari
Elevation Working drawing R01.pdf
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Re: need advice on RCC columns/beams

Posted: May 22nd, 2011, 1:46 pm
by ardesarchitects
Hi Hari,
I feel the best solution for these kind of hanging walls(though you have glass it takes no load)is ferro cement walls (mesh works)you can take a MS I channel from 7' ht to zero lvl in the ground and then finish it with mesh work, but then the moment you have a column at the corner the design essence will be gone .
It should look like a hanging wall.So the best solution is mesh drop wall or weld angular I channel from the top existing truss .
May be my dwg will explain better.

Regards
Ar.Praveen.N
Ardes Architects and Interior Designers
ardesarchitects@gmail.com

Re: need advice on RCC columns/beams

Posted: May 23rd, 2011, 12:21 pm
by ardesarchitects
Hi hari,
I uploaded by mistake the same old dwg.Please find the attached revised dwg.

Regards
Ar.Praveen.N
Ardes Architects and Interior Designers
ardesarchitects@gmail.com